FBI-UAP-D024: FD-302, “Airborne Lights and Triangle,” 2002, 2023-2024

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                                                                                                                           Date of entry        04 .      /2024




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           -       stated that starting in October 2023, a l ot of pilots have been
        seeing the same event occurring, namely seeing lights in the sky. Pilots
        have been discussing the events over                                Pi l ots
        typical l y saw them between midnight and 3 AM. -       did not know i f the
        events occurred at that time because that was when it was dark enough or i f
        it was because that was when the l i ghts were present.

             -       first observation of the lights occurred in October 2023. -
        was flying from Boston, MA to Dublin, Ireland where he saw the l ights in the
        northeast towards Gander, Canada. -          was at an elevation of 37,000 feet
        and believed the lights were h i gher than him, probably at 50,000 feet or
        higher . The lights were white in color, would start out as dim, and get
        br i ghter before they eventua l ly faded out . The fu l l cycle of the lights
        would range from 10 seconds to one minute. The l ights looked like airp l ane
        landing lights, but -       knew that it was not them, nor did he think it was




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          Starlink, Starlink flares, satell i tes, or meteors. I t ranged between one to
          four lights at a time in the sky . Some lights did not move , while others
          moved in straight lines, somet i mes changing d irection, and typically did not
          move in a coordinated fashion.

             Since spotting the lights the first time, -        has seen them
          approximately ten times . At times the lights would disappear for mi nutes
          before returning. -       has seen the lights for 45 minutes up to two
          hours . -     has seen the lights in all directions except for towards the
          south. -      saw the lights three times in the direction of North Dakota
          while flying to either Seattle or Phoenix. He has also seen them off the
          west coast and mid-Atlantic coast. -       d i d not know how far away they
          were but ventured the y were between 200-500 miles away. -        never saw the
          lights below the horizon a nd had not heard about them prior to October 2023 .

              During a trip on February _   , 2024, -     was able to capture video on
          his Samsung Galaxy S22 phone an event involving white lights. -       stated
          the lights were brighter in-person than on the camera, and the lights were
          similar in elevation to him or were slightly higher . The video is filmed
          from the cockpit of his aircraft with the lights turned off . -      was
          located approximately 150 miles northwest of Minneapoli s, Minnesota and was
          flying towards the east. The lights were seen towards the north in the
          North Dakota region at around 4:36 AM Eastern Standard Time on a clear
          ni ght .




         -     As captured on the video, white lights were seen , sometimes ten or more
          present at once, moving around in straight lines a nd getting
          bri ghter/dimmer. At the 3:27 mark i n the v ideo, -        was not sure if two
          of the lights were really close together or if it was a single light with a
          tail. At the 3 : 47 mark, -      did not know if it was three separate
          lights . At the 5 :22 mark you can see the flight panel, showing that the
          airplane was traveling at approximately .80 Mach, and that the airplane was
          40 - 50 miles northeast of Sioux Fal l s and coul d see the KFSD airport on the
          radar. -        never felt unsafe from the white lights, and did not believe
          the lights were within 100 miles of him .

               A thi rd event that -      witnessed occurred back i n June 2002. While
                          as a reservist , -     got activated to go to Afghanistan. One




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          night he was outside looking at the stars with another pilot. At
          approx imately 4:30 AM local time, -     noticed that the stars were getting
          blacked out over Bagram . It appeared as if something huge went overhead,
          from west to east, and was an equilateral triangle shape. The object was
          moving silently, at a consistent speed and altitude , possibly 150 knots ,
          with no lights visible. -       estimated it was 500 feet in size, but he
          could not fully see the shape of the object. The other pilot with -
          also observed the triangle, and when it passed over stated, "did you see
          that?" -       stated he did not further discuss the sighting with anyone
          else nor did he hear anyone else discussing the sighting .




                                                       Looking through the data, -
          never found information that could explain what he saw in Afghan istan in


          not aware of anything that would explain what he had seen.

             Overall, -       believed that not a lot of discussions were happening
          openly about the events with the lights . -       did not think there was as
          much st i gma surrounding these events, but people were just not used to
          talking about it.




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